Curse

onerabbit · Apr 07, 2007, 12:29 AM // 00:29

Mine used to be in the 20s its now in the hi 50s

but my ping is at 5000

TyrianFury · Apr 07, 2007, 03:02 AM // 03:02

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Originally Posted by Dex

Same here. I've had no trouble at all:

Athlon 64 X2 4200+
2GB RAM
Radeon x1900xtx
Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS

Note that I'm not using onboard audio. This can really make a difference in some games. This certainly sounds like an audio issue to me...seeing as how they've made a major update to the audio engine in the last update it would make sense. Can you guys tell us what type of audio hardware you have, how recently you updated your audio driver, and what OS you're using?

Yeah I suspect now that it is an audio issue, I only have on board sound realtek ac 97 withthe latest driver. All was fine before update and all my other games run fine.

I have tried the command line options to force the old directsond method but this still won't fix the problem.

BLUESHIFT · Apr 07, 2007, 03:25 AM // 03:25

Is it just me that has noticed that about 3 people are saying they are having the same problem and they all have a 7600 nVidia graphics card? Granted it could be that they all have onboard sound... Interestingly, the AA setting is affecting the frames per second, so it might be graphics related. But then again the audio subsystem was just updated, not the graphics. Thus, it could be hypothesized that there could be a link between the 7600 and the audio update.

Also, I have a X800XT and am running onboard audio with no problems.

Grasping Darkness · Apr 07, 2007, 03:48 AM // 03:48

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Originally Posted by Lonesamurai

I haven't noticed a drop in framerate, but i HAVE noticed that the game feels a little heavy when moving the camera around, its not as snappy as it used to be

same here and sometimes camera movement is slowed horribly

guinevere · Apr 07, 2007, 04:16 AM // 04:16

Hmm seems to be Vista, my PC runs just fine with XP Media Center and my laptop also has no problem with it. That runs on XP Pro. Both have no screenfreezes or whatever. Just my PCs FPS is 75-90ish depends where I hang out. Laptop is a bit slower with 40-50 and also tends to lag a bit due to my wireless modem I guess. Sound causes no problem anymore, before this last update it was just weird. Sometimes...

I'll try logging at my friends place, hes running Vista with the same specs as my PC, but I'm pretty sure it's a Vista thing. I'm just not in a change hype... Microsoft never gets his stuff right, and I'm not replacing something that's working as a charm.

EntityMaster · Apr 07, 2007, 06:53 AM // 06:53

I have had the same fps drop problem since the update. Used to have 4x antialiasing and highest graphic quality with around 40-50 fps. But now it drops to only 10. The strange thing is only some of my characters experienced this problem. If I log on to my warrior in ascalon city I have no problem at all. But at places like Kaineng city and Sun spear great hall it's a mess.

Try using the -dsound -mute command lines, didn't help. Disabling AA boosts fps to 40s but I simply can't play with those jagged edges.

PC stats:
Compal HGL-30
Core 2 Duo T7200
2 GB Ram
Vista 32 bits Home Premium
Nvidia GeForce Go 7600
Realtek High Definition Audio

Jarhok Belouve · Apr 07, 2007, 08:46 AM // 08:46

Well im still having problems, I have reinstalled my G-card drivers and tried the -dsound but to no avail. -dsound did seem to improve my stuttery sound but my fps was still averaging around 13.

This is all very well talking about it. But can we actually find a solution? I think its upto Anet in which case how can we bring it to their attention?

AMD athlon X2 64 3800+
1GB ram
Asus Nvidia Geforce 7600GT 256mb ram
160GB SATA HDD
Realtek onboard high definition audio codec
Windows Vista Home Premium (32-bit) w/ latest updates

Would the problem be solved if I stuffed in my old Soundblaster Audigy SE from my old comp? Thanks for help all

Someone on another forum is experiencing problems with a 7600GT as well. Are Anet actually doing anything about this? It worries me because so many people are fine with only a few having these problems is it enough for them to do summat?

Dex · Apr 07, 2007, 10:48 AM // 10:48

Have you guys tried turning audio completely off? What's the switch again? Is it '-nosound'? That could be a telling test.

This does seem to be hitting Vista users...anyone seeing this in XP? I know that audio on Vista is going through some growing pains right now, but the antialiasing thing is throwing me off. Perhaps there is more than one issue here. Anyone care to sound off on the -nosound and Vista/XP issues so we can start a process of elimination?

Like I said, I'm seeing a slight decrease in performance, but nothing all that disrupting, so it's not a universal problem...I'm going to go see what happens when I turn off AA...

TyrianFury · Apr 07, 2007, 10:58 AM // 10:58

I have had still no joy with the -dsound and other mixes as suggested by Gail Gray. I really would like to know the cause of this and I hope arena net fix it soon. I really do not fancy paying £60.00 for a new soundcard.

It is strange about the graphics issue with anti-aliasing been the culprit. But like someone said the audio engine was updated and not the graphics. Besides the Gerforce 7600 gt 256 is a decent mid-range card that used to cope with 4x anti-aliasing no problem prior to the update.

EntityMaster · Apr 07, 2007, 07:48 PM // 19:48

I've contact Anet about this problem, and to my surprise, their reply was just as I expected...

Quote:

Thank you for contacting Guild Wars Technical Support.

Unfortunately, Windows Vista is not a supported operating system for Guild Wars. The only supported operating systems are Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows 98, and Windows ME. You might be able to play without any problems, but we cannot be sure how the game will work on an unsupported OS.

This may change in the near future. You can look on the community boards and update notes for announcements when that will happen. You would need to switch to a supported OS for us to assist you with this issue. Please let us know if you have any further questions.

Thank you,
Guild Wars Technical Support

moriz · Apr 07, 2007, 07:51 PM // 19:51

i'm getting increased framerates on one computer, and reduced framerates on another one. :S

TyrianFury · Apr 07, 2007, 10:12 PM // 22:12

Well I have run out of options, I have returned my pc to several restore points, re-installed GW 3 times, new and old drivers, even installed a new sound card which I borrowed (Sound Blaster Augidy 2) and still no luck.

I have disabled Vista aero desktop and tried all the command line codes to alter the sound mixer.

From what I have tried I can only see that the recent GW update has broken compatibility with windows vista as it was fine before. Everyone else with this issue seem to have nvidia cards and vista. AA cant be used without a massive decrease in preformance.

I know vista is not a supported OS but wasnt the update meant to make the game more compatible because of vista's audio architecture? What do buyers of new PCs do now since 95% of now ship with Vista.

If it isn't broken don't fix it ..............please anet can you take a look at this

Chuba · Apr 07, 2007, 10:37 PM // 22:37

My Framerate hasn't really been reduced, but my client has suddenly started to hog all my CPU processing space. Windows Task manager etc. are all showing the GW client taking anywhere from 80-100% of my total CPU usage. And when it reaches 100%, GW just freezes for a few seconds at a time... making most of the game extremely unplayable. I'm going to try reinstalling the client today, so let's see what happens...

Lonesamurai · Apr 07, 2007, 10:53 PM // 22:53

Aye, my average ping in my guild hall was 100 before the update

average ping after the update is 23

fRag_Doll · Apr 08, 2007, 12:41 AM // 00:41

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Originally Posted by Taala

My fps is pretty much as steady as it always has been, but during fighting there are annoyingly often moments when the picture freezes for about a second. Gets a bit annoying when I try to lure and it freezes right after I fire the arrow.

This hasn't been happening to me before the latest update.

I am getting the exact same thing. I've tried putting all sound and graphics settings to their absolute lowest, and it made no difference at all.
In fact, in the last 10 minutes the problem has gotten worse than ever. GW is now completely unplayable for me, it spends more time stalling than running.

The only thing I've noticed, that I havn't seen mentioned here, is that it only seems to happen in combat areas.

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Originally Posted by Dex

This does seem to be hitting Vista users...anyone seeing this in XP?

Yeah, me. I usually play with graphics at highest and AA at x4, and I've always left sound at default (about mid range I think), but even with everything at lowest...

Let's face it, something in the update went very wrong, and the only thing that will fix it is a patch from Anet.

Kuldebar Valiturus · Apr 08, 2007, 01:30 AM // 01:30

I had my FPS increase by setting my graphics card for Application Controlled for AA and AF. Of course everything is maxed in the game, video wise...

Taala · Apr 08, 2007, 05:31 AM // 05:31

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Originally Posted by fRag_Doll

I am getting the exact same thing. I've tried putting all sound and graphics settings to their absolute lowest, and it made no difference at all.
In fact, in the last 10 minutes the problem has gotten worse than ever. GW is now completely unplayable for me, it spends more time stalling than running.

The only thing I've noticed, that I havn't seen mentioned here, is that it only seems to happen in combat areas.

What I have noticed now is that it keeps getting worse the longer I have Guild Wars running. By the time I have played for two hours, it reaches those unplayable levels. However restarting Guild Wars seems to help and the first hour is generally fine to play.

fRag_Doll · Apr 08, 2007, 07:17 AM // 07:17

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Originally Posted by Taala

What I have noticed now is that it keeps getting worse the longer I have Guild Wars running. By the time I have played for two hours, it reaches those unplayable levels. However restarting Guild Wars seems to help and the first hour is generally fine to play.

I've taken a different tactic. I uninstalled GW, defragged the drive, reinstalled, and now I'm useing the -image switch before I log in.

*fingers crossed*

BTW, system specs for the technophiles.

Windows XP Pro
AMD Athlon XP 2000+ 1.7GHz
1GB RAM
ATI Radeon 9600 series 256MB
SB Live! Audio [D400]

Taala · Apr 08, 2007, 09:26 AM // 09:26

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Originally Posted by fRag_Doll

I've taken a different tactic. I uninstalled GW, defragged the drive, reinstalled, and now I'm useing the -image switch before I log in.

*fingers crossed*

Sorry to disappoint you but I also tried that first. Didn't help at all.

aeroclown · Apr 08, 2007, 03:01 PM // 15:01

I am still not seeing these issues, I have an ac 97 codec on my laptop and an nforce codec on my desktop. No issues with video either. I am running xp hom sp2 and media center roll up 2. If this is affecting primarily vista users, the problem may revolve around the fact that vista shipped with DX 10 and not 9. The engine and its associated modifications revolve around DX 9. I can only imagine how DX 10 works in association with hardware that by a majority is only able to be run in a compatibility mode by the Direct X 10 system.

Remember that most of the hardware that is available is not designed to directly interface with DX 10. The majority of available hardware is still only DX9 compliant.